Bob Knight on death of John Wooden … the silence is deafening, and revealing
Jun 11, 2010, 3:00 PM EST
Interesting that, as so many climb over each other this month to canonize John Wooden, there are a few notable names not on board with the hallelujahs. Practically everyone in sports media — or at least those with Twitter accounts — stopped just short of creating the coach’s likeness in stained glass at the news of his passing on June 4. Yes, Wooden was a great coach. And yep, he touched many lives; including far more than just the players he coached. But to deny the man’s blemishes at a time like this is to actually diminish his overall beauty. Sorry to report: John Wooden was not God. Two things that need to be pointed out:
* If Wooden is, as I’ve been hearing over and over again this month, the greatest basketball coach of all time, why did Pete Newell absolutely own him? The late Cal coach (the real best coach ever, in my opinion) had an 8-0 record against Wooden over their final eight meetings.
* Why are so many ignoring the Sam Gilbert factor? It’s widely known that Gilbert played fast and loose with NCAA rules all during the UCLA hoops dynasty; Wooden even himself acknowledging that he should have paid more attention to what was going on. It’s also most likely the reason, according to some, that Knight has been silent thus far on Wooden’s passing.
Anthony Schoettle in today’s Indianapolis Business Journal:
Knight and Wooden were giants of the sport, and no two men advanced the game, and quite frankly, advanced the business of the game, more than these two.
But the truth is, they didn’t like each other.
Knight has publicly stated that Wooden let the likes of Sam Gilbert, a notorious booster who allegedly provided some UCLA players with gifts in violation of NCAA rules, remain far too close to the Bruins’ program.
Knight was even quoted as saying you won’t find anyone like Gilbert loitering around the IU program while he was coach. Clearly, Knight thought Wooden turned a blind eye to things he shouldn’t have, allowing UCLA alums to buy talent that fueled the school’s magical hoops run of the 1960s and 1970s.
And Bill Livingston of the Cleveland Plain Dealer wrote on Thursday:
When Indiana’s Calbert Cheaney won the John Wooden Award as college basketball’s best player in 1993, he wasn’t present in Los Angeles to receive his prize. A taped acceptance speech stood in for him. Nor was his coach, Bob Knight, present.
The award was presented while Indiana had classes scheduled, which provided a convenient excuse. The subtext of the absence of Knight and his prize player was Knight’s reluctance to be associated with the award named for the UCLA coach.
Wooden didn’t care for Knight either, although he admired the IU coach’s talent. No two major coaches were more opposite in their approach to teaching. Wooden was your grandfather, who, if he caught you shoplifting a candy bar, would sit you down and tell you a story about how he walked 10 miles to return some change he found in the sofa. Knight was your uncle, who saw the same crime and turned you over to the cops. But not before making you eat the wrapper.
Hey, both got results. My opinion? Wooden was somewhat of a phony, quoting Bible verses while, in plain sight, Gilbert gouged the NCAA rulebook with a devil’s pitchfork. Knight was a better tactician, and scrupulously honest. But he was flawed as well, as the fingerprints on Neil Reed’s throat will attest. Too bad we couldn’t combine the best qualities of these two great coaches; then we’d really have something.
Oh wait, we did. His name was Pete Newell.
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Differences drove wedge between Knight and Wooden [Indiana Business Journal]
John Wooden was the king of a different (and not pristine) era in college basketball [Cleveland Plain Dealer]
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- terry - Jun 30, 2010 at 9:37 AM
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Rick – Kitty Kelly wants to do a book with you and wants you to contact her.
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- chris shirling - Jun 30, 2010 at 5:27 PM
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Wooden is right in there with Phil Jackson. If you own the best talent, you are going to win games.
If basketball were a stock car race (all teams with the same talent) Bob Knight would throttle John Wooden all day long.
I’m not saying Wooden wasn’t a nice man and a good PR person for the game of basketball but Knight did far more with far less.
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- Don - Jul 1, 2010 at 3:57 AM
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Pete Newell the greatest coach ever? Even if you desperately wanted an alternative to Wooden, which I’m okay with, you should have done better than that. Shows what you know, NOTHING!
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- Tom - Jul 4, 2010 at 11:35 PM
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The proof is in the pudding. Wooden’s peers in coaching such greats as Newell,Iba,Lapchick,Haskins etc. never acknowledged him; yet, they were great friends of the much younger Knight. Wooden should have left his “Integrity” block out of his pyramid as Digger Phelps suggested. Wooden- great person but a coach who only started winning due to turning the blind eye.
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- howlin wolf - Jul 8, 2010 at 7:49 PM
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Pete Newell quit coaching in 1960 and was nothing special during his tenure at Michigan State. Wooden won 10 titles and Newell won one. Wooden wanted nothing to do with Bobbby Knight.
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- Philip - Jul 13, 2010 at 5:31 PM
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I know this will not convince you, but his comments are noteworthy.
First, I must confess I know Pete Newell and family. One normally expects an author to explore the pros and cons of a man. But this book is biased in exploring Pete Newell’s life and his coaching. Anyone who explores Pete Newell could only write in this fashion. I have never found anyone who had a problem dealing with Pete and the book in my opinion is accurate and truthful. Thank you Mr. Jenkins for documenting one of the best and most popular basketball minds ever. Pete has a saying in basketball, you are either a giver or taker. Pete in life, has been a big giver. I will always cherish that part of my life which included Pete and Florence Newell. This from someone who is not easily impressed. I played at UCLA for John Wooden.
THIS IS FROM LYNN SHACKEFORD WHO PLAYED ON WOODEN CHAMPIONSIP TEAMS. He is talking about the bio by Bruce Jenkins, “A Good Man.”
You might want to read it.
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